I'm just amazed by the amount of comments received and discussions that are taking place here. That's just what I intended for so much thanks to you all!
In light of all the discussion, I've read through the comments and decided to try and provide answers to some of them. So, I'll just jump right in . . .
Ben stated: "The Earth will line up with the galactic center of the galaxy in 2012? No. No it won't. It already did, in 1997. I don't know about any of you, but I didn't change that much. So any effects that you expect to take place in 2012 already did, in 1997."
Answer: It is not the Earth that will align. The 2012 alignment is that of the Sun with the Center of the Galactic Equator, which is the precise mid-line running down the Milky Way Galaxy, where we now know a massive black hole exists. (Yet somehow, the Mayans have always known of it's existence.)
Rlowe said: "I'm still a skeptic though. how could a web bot that's designed to predict stock market activity be able to predict anything not directly related to the stock market?"
Answer: Here's how it works - as provided by the bot guys at Urban Survival.com . . .
"A system of spiders, agents, and wanderers travel the Internet, much like a search engine robot, and look for particular kinds of words. It targets discussion groups, translation sites, and places were regular people post a lot of text.
When a "target word" is found, or something that was lexically similar, the web bots take a small 2048 byte snip of surrounding text and send it to a central collection point. The collected data was then filtered, using at least 7-layers of linguistic processing in Prolog, which was then reduced to numbers and then a resultant series of scatter chart plots on multiple layers of Intellicad. Viewed over a period of time, the scatter chart points tend to coalesce into highly concentrated areas. Each dot on the scatter chart might represent one word or several hundred.
To define meanings, words or groups of words have to be reduced to the their essence. The process is like looking for least common denominators among groups of words. The core of the technology, therefore, is to look at how the scatter chart points cluster - condensing into high dot density areas which we call entities and then dissolving or diffusing over time as the entities change. Do a drill down into a dot and you get a series of phrases.
What becomes obvious when reading about the technology is that it sometimes reads a bit like the I Ching (the Chinese Book of Changes) because the technology doesn't come out and say "go look for a terrorist attack over there" What it does is it gives phrases that would be associated with how people talk about an event, or more accurately, how they change their speech to reflect their thought processes because of an event.
The web bot technology apparently taps in to an area of preconscious awareness. Dean Radin's paper "Time-Reversed Human Experience: Experimental Evidence and Implications". The mind-bending evidence in Radin's work is that in a laboratory, people begin to react to an event as early as 6-seconds before it takes place. In other words, if you are about to show someone a horribly grotesque picture of something, they will already be physically reacting to it before the picture actually becomes visible. Up to 6-seconds. In quantum terms, Radin's work demonstrates that people are physically able to perceive 6-seconds into the future.
It's as if changes in language precede large emotional events. The larger the emotional impact of an event, the more advance notice the bots seem to give. If you picture some pin holes in a piece of paper - and you imagine being able to look through each pinhole for a fraction of a second - with the objective of seeing the future on the other side of the paper - that's where the web bots are today."
PHP Encoder asked: Could it not just be that this web bot is picking up LOADS of references to 2012 and that's why its coming up with this prediction as they're all talking about the same thing?
Answer: Sure, that counts for something. However, there's much more to it than that. Please refer to Dean Radin's paper: Time-Reversed Human Experience: Experimental Evidence and Implications.
"Ever since Plato's Allegory of the Cave, people have sensed that odd things go on at the archetype level of consciousness. The web bots are an attempt to use the high data density of the Internet to sample language and seek linguistic shifts that we believe may precede events. The initial results suggest that language shifts on a macro level begin to occur 45 to 90 days before society-changing events. We believe we've demonstrated that changes in language do indeed precede events - on a far grander scale than Dean Radin's work first suggested - and these language changes are available by sampling routine Internet traffic." - Urban Survival.com
"People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion." – Albert Einstein
Annonymous asked: Where can we get FACTUAL information about the "Web Bot Project?"
Answer: From the bot project operators, of course! Visit Peoplenomics or Urban Survival.com and go grom there . . .
And for those of you fearing the end of the world - stop doing so - and try to consider this. Could it just be the end of our world "as we know it" rather than a literal end? That's what I believe it will bring about. A societal movement into a higher consciousness. And it's possible that the catalyst for this movement will be devastating earthly events that will remind us of our ignorance as earthly beings. Because we are unappreciative of our surroundings and slowly destroying the environmental gifts placed here for us. It is not logical to think that there are no consequences for this ignorance . . . .
I think we are already slowly beginning to realize that it's possible that we are two halves which make a whole - part spiritual being, part earthly being. But we've forgotten about our spiritual selves and I believe we will be remembering our divinity soon. That's what I believe the significance of 2012 will be, and that's just my opinion. Feel free to air yours in our comment section here.
That's as far as I've gotten so far. But that's enough to begin investigating for yourself and discussing here, right? So what do you think . . . . does any of this change your opinion at all?
16 Comments:
how about area 51? its been on earth for a while and a secret, shouldn't they know a little something of this "doomsday of 2012?"
Wow what an interesting article...I too believe that the changes we will be experiencing will be on a higher consciousness level. We have become absolutely ridiculous and need a shake up to bring us back to reality about what is good and right...aren't there many of you out there just tired of dealing with people in general - the nastiness - the selfishness that is permeating everything...I for one am looking forward to this change...I hope that the work I am doing on myself will help me understand the changes I know are coming.
I'm if you beleive in Jesus Christ then you have nothing to fear. John 3:16
I've been told this before, and I've only been meditating for over a year, which is not long. But from what I have felt, the earth is changing. I have read too that the earth's natural vibration is highering, cause more spiritual attunement. I have "lived" with spiritual people, and they too believe 2012 is a significent year of many things. Other than spiritual meaning, is christian's thought of the apocolypse will begin, or have meaning with 2012? Also, which may sound fantasy like, i have been in the woods, or meditating in the trees, and its more of a subconcious talk of a better way. In a way it could be the vibrations mentioned before. Mayans, chinese, many contries from many centuries apart have different ways, is possible, can you explain some? I've looked for them, and its ripped off people posting what they say(partly) and giving their opinion for it. Its not a game, mayans(no communication with the world) and many other countries come up with 2012 as some high thing.
I am a hindu and our holy texts also point to similar consequences at the end of present age. According to some calculations it is around early 21st century - could be 2012. According to our encient texts, this world has been destroyed and rebuilt several times in the past and would continue to experience similar fates - each destruction giving birth to a more advanced culture. The creation passes through several time cycles called "Kalpa" - each consisting 4 ages or "yuga"s. First age being the "Satya yuga" (the golden age. It is the longest of them all when people are virtuous and forces of evil are at their weakest), followed by "Treta Yuga" (it is the time when people begin to corrupt, but holiness still rules). Then comes "Dwapar Yuga" when evil begins to rise and equals with the force of holiness. Then comes "Kali Yug" - the darkest age having the shortest life time. Evil prevails in this age. We are presently at this age. The last "Kali Yug" began after 33years of the "Mahabharata war"- which happened around 3300B.C.As per some calculations, the life time of "Kali Yuga" is 5000 years and it will end with extreme destruction around the world. Then another "Kalpa" will begin with a new golden age. Humanity WILL survive.
This societal movent into a higher consciousness theory corralate with Nishida Kitaro's logic of contradictory ident theory in which the identitty of human being is social and individual, whas the social part of man is the nature of man and historical material of man and the individual is the absolute spirit human being or the religious spirit of human being.
The following predict a 2012 mega-event:
1) Sibylline and Delphic oracles - Cave-dwelling Greek religious fanatics high on the same psychoactive chemical found when sniffing glue.
2) Terrence McKenna + I Ching - A guy most famous for being high on mushrooms and conversing with machine-elves fixates on a Chinese magic 8-ball, creates a graph, and arbitrarily overlays it on a timeline of a small fraction of human history.
3) Merlin - Yes, King Arthur's Merlin. Yeeees.
4) Mother Shipton - Some nonexistent old lady in a cave with a bunch of hoaxed prophecies written centuries later.
5) Web-Bot - A Bible-Code for the Internet, and roughly as accurate as Sylvia Brown. Absurd because it's still humans telling it what to search for, preconceptions of whom will necessarily skew results.
6) Of course the Maya, a people well-known for their foresight, as demonstrated by their behavior toward Cortes.
Other stuff that simply points (vaguely) to an apocalypse, at some future point:
1) Revelations
2) Nostradamus
3) Black Elk of the Ghost Dance
4) Probably Edgar Cayce, too
... which are all of course used to predict all manner of things, not only 2012.
Did I leave any out? Is there any compelling reason at all to believe that this date will be of any significance?
i believe something has to happen for humanity to wake up to realization. People have to be shocked into changing their way of thinking, living in order for us to prosper as a race. We must stop thinking that money is the key to everything.If you stop to think all the bad things in this world are all created with money and how we can make more.We need to go back to basics!
December 23 2012 will bring us freedom as we will become new members of the universe. Good things coming!!!
how is it that we can achieve so much from the time we had on earth like establishing a government, and travailing to space, restoring almost extinct animals etc, but yet nobody can give a straight answer on whats going to happen on 2012, religion says its the start of Armageddon or non believers are saying its not going to happen just like all the other times that people said the world was going two end,or its a weed smoking day like 4:20 but that last one i doesn't even think makes sense so what is it true or not,whats going to happen is religion involved or what everywhere u go its always different answers.
Maybe that date will be the date that aliens from another planet will make contact with us that would be awesome! As it stands it seems that most religions are awaiting the end of days trapped in man made dogma I believe 2012 will be a change in the collective thinking as our thoughts are more powerful than we give them credit for THOUGHTS become things so choose the good ones! Anyone remember Y2K ? and nothing came of that ....Most likely those that think the world will end in 2012 will celebrate their holiday in a cave or an underground shelter only to realize that they were way off lol funny how most people will embrace the negative more so than positive....
i don't know if i will believe in your article,but honest im afraid.i want to live long i want to experience the hapiness of life.i wish it will not happen soon
The 2012 - point of human consciousness,and not natural.Ends with a cycle time of human history and begin the next cycle.No more.
Four colors for the four races of man: Yellow,
Red, Black, White, same as the colors of the Four Directions. 2012 will introduce a fifth race, color, and direction. A race from the stars.
k i just want to make one thing perfectly clear if anything happens in 2012 it has 100% nothing to do with "God" or Religion i am sick and tired of people saying "Dont worry God has a plan" or crap just as useless... people if there is a massive change in the way we think and act and react with each other, then i guarantee it will be a change in everyones perception of religion. The roots of religion, or the morals, and not religion itself is the key to our survival and if everyone thinks god will take care of or problems no one will try to fix the problem for themselves. Basically whether 2012 brings unimaginable doom or simply just a new era of consciencness the only way we will ever further evolve as people is if we stop seperating ouselves between articles of faith and start concentrating on being sympathetic, caring , and more aware of our impact on other people especially the ones who cant even defend themselves
Alien contact is more likely than Jesus coming back. Facts: That black hole IS there and asteroids have been problematic before (ask a Dinosaur). Destructive global changes due to man (global warming, pollution-derived weather changes, and mass disease/hunger due to J-shaped population) are most likely. I would not be surprised if the world ended during my lifetime. And while I am skeptical of "seeing the future", collective unconsciousness, Radin's work, our ignorance on the mind and time, and a personal experience with an incredibly precise fortune teller make me wonder. What may be strange about my view: While I believe we need some environmental respect and changes, I personally don't CARE if the world ends. According to my nightmares, the end comes from the sky, and will be peaceful and beautiful.
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